Thursday, January 13, 2011

Closing Costs questions

我准备签一个合同买一个小房子。房价 $75000 , cash offer.
但是,刚才我的agent给我一个closing cost 的估价,让我吃一惊, closing cost is almost $2509 for this small house! 我是用现金买的呀. 请问大家这样的charge 有道理吗。我在dallas
Title insurance $674
$Credit report $65
Flood Certificate: $40
Recording fees: $50
Underwriting fee:$200
Coldwell banker flat fee: $250
Messenger charge: $30
appraisal fee : $350
Doc Prep fee/ Attoney: $200
Settlement fee: $250
Tax Services fee: $75
Survey: $325
Total cost: $2509


 Answer 1:
"cash offer"
Title insurance $674
>Normally the seller should pay for this.
$Credit report $65
>BS. no finance, no credit report.
Flood Certificate: $40
>Fair
Recording fees: $50
>Fair
Underwriting fee:$200
>Not sure what this is related to. If it's related to title insurance, should be paid by seller. If related to loan, should be $0.
Coldwell banker flat fee: $250
>I'd consider this BS. Is the settlement agency also called Coldwell Banker?
Messenger charge: $30
>Fair
appraisal fee : $350
>Did you pay this already? If not, fair.
Doc Prep fee/ Attoney: $200
>Fair. Though you didn't use a lawyer, some legal guy still has to prepare the docs.
Settlement fee: $250
>Kind of high, may ask for a discount/reduction. Just ask.
Tax Services fee: $75
>High.
Survey: $325
>Did you get a survey? For rental, many people skip this.
Total cost: $2509
All in all, the title insurance and coldwell banker flat fee seem the worst offender. Please, the big shrimps chip in.

Answer 2:
Doc Prep fee/ Attoney和Settlement fee应该是escrow的费用。但是你不贷款,不知道Underwriting fee和appraisal fee 从何而来。我估计是一个standard 估计。到时不会收全部。另外,房子大与小,除了commission差别比较大之外,其它费用差别并不大。

Answer 3:
You can request a copy of the estimated closing cost from the escrow company within a week.
Agree with 如山. A lot of fees are standard fees with loans.

Answer 4:
Which Title Company? Something is wrong. Maybe need a different one.
I bought two properties last year with cash around Dallas area. The closing cost is only about $500.

Answer 5:
Case 1: in MN
i'm in MN now, $466 is total closing cost paid for a town house, break down:
closing fee $175
title insurance: $180 ( could have been saved if I insisted, but closing agent normally insisted you buy)
Site inspection $40
Recording $25
County Recording $46
closing agent: Edina Realty Title ( a title company)
Case II: $850 --- in MA through an attorney
Both case are for cash offer, not apply to closing with a loan. $2000~2500 closing cost is reasonable in MA excluding reserve fund part

Gas Projects

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/tzlc/280717.html

整个project花了我 $650 。如果没有city 和 plumber捣蛋,我全都可以自己做。
最初的一个plumber估价$4000多,后来降到$2700。其余plumber的都要收$2000多。
后来,我决定自己修,以下的部分全是我自己完成:
1。把所有通向furnace,water heater, range 的铁管子全换成 black gas pipe 。这是一个大活,我基本上reroute 了所有露在外面的gas pipe。原来房主用水管当gas pipe,不符合code
2。该用flexible gas connector 的地方全用flexible gas connector
3。换掉所有漏气的gas valves
4。为热水器加装 water pan  和出水通道。
5。为furnace重新开辟通向下水道的管道
6。用洗碗液查出了所有漏气的地方。
plumber 给我干了以下的事:
1)申请permit
2)把pvc换成cpvc
3)gas pressure test
4)打通一个废弃的下水管道
这个project花了我不少时间,但是学到很多东西。下次买老房子房时,心里更有数了。